Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:12 AM UTC, Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:13 AM UTC. Customs services and international tracking provided. I have cats and I clean the litter box (thanks the wife for that! ) Just a heads up on some of these labeled cans that may still be in circulation. I did have some Floquil Reefer White yellow after I hit it with Testor Dullcote (in the rattle can) but that was probably more because I didn't let the paint dry long enough. I've never used this product before, but my understanding is that it is specifically intended for use as a final coat (and is a different product than Tamiya Flat Base X21.) Canada Post is not updating tracking information on a regular basis. Model Master Acryl flat isn't bad either. I wanted to test them out on resin and see how they looked and felt. The eyes were masked off and got a glossy coat using Tamiya X-22 "Clear Gloss" applied with a brush. Never clogged, and always comes out flat. 100ml of paint. 1 offer from CDN$41.30. the krylon is cheaper, but a larger can. Or for brushing try … The more you add, the flatter it gets. Make sure to test clear coating over decals before applying to a finished project. I've literally spent my entire day trying to figure out a solution to the white, dusty flat coat quandary. Greetings all. I don't know if it is as "flat" as Testors, but at least it will be compatible with your color coats. TS80 Flat Clear is useful to clear coat glossy paint finishes that you desire to have a final flat look. I used one on a `copter and it was fine, next day I used it on a jet and...disaster! 183 Sold. Get ready for some science experiments… Testors Clear Coat By Testors lacquer flat works like a charm, but the darn thing stinks my place for about a week, I just got some tamiya flat, nice acrylic "brain cell friendly" stuff, Rick, You could look at it the way I do. If you don't have an airbrush, get some Mr Topcoat or another acrylic clear coat for best results. I can't speak for the other brands, but I have used the Vallejo Matt Varnish with no problems. As Si said Tamiya Clear is added to matt paint to give a gloss finish and Flat Base is added to gloss paint to give a matt finish. Sometimes even in the cat litter. Are you talking about the spray cans on the stuff in the bottles? 57. But overall Testor Dull Coat is very nice. In my experience airbrushing it, it dries to the touch within a few minutes, and at about 30 minutes to an hour you can easily apply decals. +C $25.05 shipping. Sorry for the noob question,but I am wondering if I can spray Tamiya Lacquer(TS-13 and TS-80)from a rattle can as a gloss and flat coat over my models which are painted in Tamiya Acrylics. Does anyone knows the biggest difference between these two? It is called Tamiya Flat Base, right? Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 09:57 PM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:09 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:21 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 09:56 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 11:25 AM UTC. Painting polycarbonate bodies is done from the inside of the body shell as opposed to the outside of a traditional plastic model. Some of these I really haven’t heard too much about being used for BJDs. You are viewing the archived version of the site. 4.8 out of 5 stars 382. Lusterless Flat Lacquer Clear Coat Testors Customers also viewed these products. Upload or insert images from URL. × My goal is to get as dead flat finish as possible. Looking at your pictures Bill I'm getting a bit of this too, only nowhere near as bad. It's readily available here in Australia.   You cannot paste images directly. some say to use it. Rush and Pink Floyd are my two favorites bands of all time. I ordered some tamiya base and i have a bottle of future to thin it out. Cheers Mike, you`ve inspired me to stick some on :D, General Discussion - NO POLITICS. 19d 23h left (22/6, 22:36) From United States. or Best Offer. Don't thin it at all, just drop it in the airbrush and go. Too much Flat Base causes the frosty surfaces. I haven't used Model Master dull or gloss to know if they yellow over time though. My short term memory is getting really bad....and so is my short term memory. Again, thin it out and spray it on lightly and it dries dead flat. Buy It Now. Humbrol matt or satin varnish for me! I'm confused now. From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:43 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tamiya Flat Clear TS-80 spray can I’ve had sputtering rattle cans of Dullcoat ruin freight car finishes. March 21, 2006 in Tools 'n' Tips. Is it okay to use the laquer if i do it lightly? Tamiya's Clear Flat in a jar is also very good. I’m trying to be more careful since the gloss coat I used(Mr.Hobby Color Acrylic Clear Gloss) ruined the camo on my current model. × Therefore its a battle between me and stupid the cat. If it's some kind of spray can, you might want to wait longer though, as spray cans mist a lot more paint onto the model and usually take longer to fully cure. there is nothing wrong with lacquer per se. Applying clear coat … You can spray lacquer over the paint and decals if you do it right. To protect the paint and decals from the lacquer. I find anything other than a flat clear coat … TAMIYA PS-55 Flat Clear Polycarbonate Spray 100Ml - 75-T86055. C $12.05; Buy It Now +C $29.74 shipping Stupid stinks. If only varnishing was so simple...Ahhhh. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 07:34 PM UTC. My rule of thumb is: You can paint enamels and acrylics over lacquer, but not lacquers over enamels and acrylics. I have never had any issue with it at all and it dries dead flat. CDN$15.99. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 01:39 AM UTC. I use the Testors Model Master Acryl Clear Flat through my airbrush all the time, I do not thin it, I use it straight from bottle through my Paasche VL at about 18-20psi. See "The Complete Future" thread in the Painting and Airbrushing Forum. Altough it must be stirred & thinned well to get the best result. I use it to add some flat to Tamiya Smoke for wheel well weathering. Cheers Mike, you`ve inspired me to stick some on :). Get it as soon as Tue, Dec 22. Unless you have the spray can version, then just shake it well. Shop with confidence. ive used krylon matte finish clear coat and also mr clear top coat flat. I did have one jar that tended to leave small white specks on the finish, but that may have been a bad batch as I haven't had that problem with subsequent jars. I love the smell of dull coat in the morning. I love Testors Dull Cote. I also have a few rattle cans of MM laquer. yes, it is just fine. This went Pete Tong and they replaced the stickers with ones saying `don`t use with enamel or acrylic paint`. It is a flattening additive to add to their gloss clear coat.   Your previous content has been restored. Recently I went to my local hobby store and picked out some clear matte sealants. Genius! Beware that it requires precision mixing ratio to get the desired flat level. I'm interested in what you find that works. Acrylic paints dry extremely quickly which can cause the frosting effect. The main problem is that no matter what formulas, brands, thinning ratios or ritual dances to the modeling gods I use, I always end up with a finish that makes the model look dusty. It dries instantly and is safe over enamel or acrylic finishes. I don't really reccomend this product. the rattle cans is the same stuff as the bottle, juset that you need to thin the stuff in the bottle before you spray it. May also be used on Metal Parts. I personally love testors dullcote, and i dont mind the smell, but if you want something friendlier, tamiya will work, just takes some pratice to get the right mix of flat base and clear. Same thing with their gloss paints. For a small area such as that which you describe, you may wish to see if you can find a bottle of Gunze clear flat acrylic (H-20) which will be far less aggressive. Testors dullcoat, what goes underneath it? Lacquer just tends to be "hotter" than other types so you have to be careful using it over other paints. But I don't put down anything before i use dullcote. <_<. You can thin it out about 50/50. Testors lacquer flat works like a charm, but the darn thing stinks my place for about a week, I just got some tamiya flat, nice acrylic "brain cell friendly" stuff, but.... would I get the same results as testors? Part Number 85080. Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 02:21 PM UTC. I share my building room with stupid the cat. 5.0 out of 5 stars. level 1 … It's also a great way of keeping a small amount of any special colors you have mixed in case you need some at the end of the build. but litter fumes don't kill brain cells, just make you.... :D I hate cats and their smell, plus the damn things shed and hairs get in your models.... anyways, I had to claim my minute of anger. Paste as plain text instead, × Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:45 AM UTC. Well, that was a waste on an entire day. Carefully sand down the coat with a fine grit sand paper/ polishing cloth to cut through the refraction of the flat coat. Ideal for preparing ABS and Styrene plastic for paint. You should be okay if you do it lightly. 18 product ratings - Tamiya 85080 TS-80 Matte Flat Clear Coat Spray Lacquer Paint Aerosol 100ml. Tamiya paint will often do this regardless of colours, it's not great to brush as the thinner will re-activate prior coats even when dry. No outright frosting, like you get if you spray Tamiya Flat Base straight, but varying degrees of a dusty layer that looks more like weathering than a clear coat. $12.57 $ 12. Overall it's much better to spray it on. I think the testors dullcote has just a bit more sheen than acryl flat, which i like. Several applications should make the Flat Base clear again so you can apply a proper flat clear. it works with the rattle cans too, its just easier to get a light coat with an airbrush. Might at least bring some of the color back. X-21 is a flating agent—don't use it straight. Brand New. I have been using Liqutex matt varnish thinned slightly with water and some of their Slow-Dri Fluid Retarder for almost a year now with no problems.It sprays well and is cheap to use.Jeff T. The building lamp is lit.Build'em if you got'em. Of course, thats all a matter of personal taste! Otherwise, you can use Tamiya X-22 Clear Gloss mixed with X-21 Flat base to make a suitable acrylic flat coat. Always turns out, never failed me yet and been using it for years and years. Ive tried MM acryl flat but for me I feel that it is a bit too flat of a coat. A closer look- Testors, Tamiya, Vallejo, and Armory. The same can be done with Future. I've never tried it since I still have enough PollyScale flat coat but once I've run out of PollyScale will give XF-86 a bash since I also you Tamiya acrylics. The only conclusion I've come up with is that I want my Polly-S flat coat back. the effect seems a little less noticeable, and it … That stinks too. Stupid poos in the room. The more you add, the flatter it gets. i much prefer mr clear, but its more expensive for a lesser quantity. Tamiya 85080 TS-80 Matte Flat Clear Coat Spray Lacquer Paint Aerosol 100ml. Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 04:34 PM UTC. You can post now and register later. I don't think accuflex is available any more but you can find similar products in good art or hobby stores under 'extender' or 'retarder'. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. After finsihing decaling, I'm preparing to airbrush my model with a matte finish using Tamiya XF-86 Flat Clear. The one thing you havent mentioned is an 'extender'. The key is to spray light, mist coats and not soak the surface.   Pasted as rich text. most people who speak for and against lacquer are speaking on personal preference or paint compatibility with the other paints they use. Stupid eats on the other side of the room. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 02:50 AM UTC, Thanks for all the responses thus far. What's the true story? But if you want to create some effect for tyres, this flat base can work. I don't like Dullcoat either and agree that Polly Scale is the best one out there. The extender does exactly what it says...extends the drying time to ensure wet paint is hitting the surface. I like the Tamiya sprays by far compared to Army Painter and Citadel (clear coats and primers), but I wish they came in a bigger can. I have Iso alcohol, or water, and I can get the very small bottles of Tamiya thinner. Since you like using Tamiya acrylics, Tamiya launched XF-86 Flat Clear in their acrylic mini range - 10ml bottles. It tries to stink me out and I battle back with dull coat, model master white or metalizers. I use one drop of Badger Accuflex extender in each airbrush bowl of Testors modelmaster acryl paint. New (11) from $12.75 & … Each can contains 100ml of paint, which is the appropriate amount for finishing one complete model. I absolutely love David Gilmour's guitar work. About Tamiya Flat Base, yes like everybody said it's just an additive elements to other gloss paints. These spray paints were developed especially for decorating transparent polycarbonate bodies used in R/C car modeling. The White is actually trapped water vapor. Now, this is different stuff than MM flat clear. just start with a light coat, which will dry very quickly, then a bit heavier on a second coat and that does it. (all these acryllic users were making me feel like the last smoker in the bar), ? You could try (test first) spraying a clear gloss coat in order to fill in some of the refractive parts of the flat coat.   Your link has been automatically embedded. Then flat coat with another type of coat. This batch has since been recalled from major retaillers but I have seen a few still on the market in smaller outlets. Tamiya makes a flat clear. I've been having a real problem airbrushing various brands of acrylic clear flat coats. C $3.27. I've done some more testing using the suggestions from you all, but unfortunately don't have any real progress to report. More info and pictures: Stickers were subsequently applied on said cans stating ` don`t use with brushing paint for 7 days`. Tamiya USA Featured Items Paint & Finishing Products Painting is one of the most important steps in the model-making process, and quality coloring is made easy using Tamiya paint and finishing materials! Find great deals on eBay for tamiya clear and tamiya clear spray. I just ordered a bottle of Tamiya XF86, and will post my findings as soon as I shoot it. Sometimes I got frosty surfaces on the model because of this Dull Coat. My best success (if you want to call it that) seems to have been with my thinned mixture of Vallejo Model Color Matte Varnish with a couple drops of Liquitex Flo-Aid added. If either Clear or Flat Base … C $20.68. Yeah, I was a Humbrol man untill they changed formula and only, initially, advertised it as `new formula`, with no mention of the potential harm it could do if you sprayed it on their own enamel paint. Testors also have one in their product line. From United States +C … As far as Tamiya, I dont think they make a flat clear coat. TS-80 Flat Clear. Some people say dont use laquer. Here's my honest advice as I've heard of this issue before. We are shipping online orders as usual during the COVID-19 event. I would have accepted it was my own fault (as I have made several mistakes with varnishing in the past)in some manner of application, if other modelers and retailers were not reporting the same results. As far as Tamiya, I dont think they make a flat clear coat. Yes, Thomas, if you mist your model with Future you can save your model. I hope that Humbrol have sorted out their problems as I once found their products ultra-reliable untill my desert jets came out looking like they`d been covered in (1)snow or (2) paintstripper. For my first ever post on Armorama, I'm looking for some troubleshooting assistance. <_<. Seems that it's a condition that is the end result of the Tamiya Flat and Future when their is to much humidity in the air. in which i explore the many legends of this apparently magical way of making yo model shine like a diamond in a goat's ass. I still want to try pollyscale, every review claims to be the flat coat from the gods... would see. Testor Dull Coat is good. So you are telling me that is designed to work as a mixing agent with other paints...... well on that case I think I am going to stick with testors.... just open all the windows and door before I shoot, woo hoo, another lacquer purist! 3.4oz (100ml) can of Tamiya Color Spray Lacquer for Plastic Models (TS-80 Gloss Clear) For Adult Modelers Only. I can't remember the number, but the Tamiya web site would list it. It can be mixed in varying amounts with gloss acrylic (only) paints to produce any desired level of reflectance, including Tamiya clear gloss coat. Clear editor. Thanks to, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 04:58 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 05:58 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 08:40 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 09:07 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 11:49 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 12:23 PM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 04:53 PM UTC. ... Tamiya TAM87131 Black Planel Line Accent 4.8 out of 5 stars 1,504. If you have any doubt practice on some scrap before using it on your build. I've used Testors dulcote for ever straight from the spray can without much problem.I had 1 hard lesson at first,that it had to be shaken very well first,my finished model was a write off as it turned into totally white dust.I am going to try something Gino suggested on another post.Modelmaster lusterless flat,#1960.I had no idea it existed and I have yet to find it. I have been using 2 parts X-21 Flat Base to 3 parts Future as a flat coat for 5 years and it always gives me a perfect dead flat finish with no problems. Tamiya makes a clear flat paint that you can use instead. Top Rated Seller Top Rated Seller. Replied by Phil on topic Tamiya XF-86 flat clear help I've found it ok, not as good as Gunze flat, but I've never had any issue with it drying glossy. It is called Tamiya Flat Base, right? Rick_Q, Bill,sorry you are having so much trouble.I know it can be frustrating not being ablle to fix a problem.Let me ask you a few questions. On the bench: Dragon flakvierling with armoured cab + AM Works PE, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 01:49 PM UTC. However, they did and although I have never heard an official line from Humbrol, I assume that the withdrawal of this product by the company itself flags up the dangers of using any of these cans still in circulation. Free Shipping by Amazon ... Tamiya TS-80 Clear Flat Spray 100ml. I swore those off many years ago. This will prevent the clear coat from cracking due to different cure rates from the paint underneath. It is a flattening additive to add to their gloss clear coat. FREE Shipping on orders over … 10ml Mini. Perhaps you should ask a different question. Though unfortunately that doesn't really answer your question. Honestly, most of the time, I use Tamiya Clear Flat Lacquer in a spray can. When using Tamiya Clear Flat (matt varnish, NOT Flat Base), what is the best thinning ratio for spraying, and what's the prefered thinner ? the finish is much more noticeable than the krylon in my opinion. I had a small plastic tub (with a lid) of a desert yellow which kept liquid for 2 weeks after I added two drops of extender to the mix. But what about yellowing, I've read on this forum where Testors MM dullcote and glosscote turn yellow over time. Beats the crap of out cat........crap. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 09:29 AM UTC. Testors TENAMEL-1247 Aerosol Enamel Paint, 3 oz, Gloss Black 4.5 out of 5 stars 165. Allow the paint to be clear-coated to fully cure before applying TS80. Tamiya acrylic paint, XF-86 Flat clear. And here's Frankenstein's penguin in all its glory, painted solely using Tamiya brush paints + pastel chalk for weathering and a flat clearcoat sprayed on top. Display as a link instead, × A heavy coat gives the solvents more time to attack the other paints. For best results allow up to one week. Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:02 PM UTC, Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:59 PM UTC, Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 11:59 PM UTC. A slight sheen isn't too bad, but would prefer not to have any...especially on figures. Our retail location is PICKUP ONLY. 1-16 of 49 results for "tamiya clear coat" Skip to main search results Eligible for Free Shipping. Too little Flat Base have no effect on the paint.